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Author Topic: Pla Plate and General Modding help  (Read 11691 times)

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Pla Plate and General Modding help
« on: December 08, 2010, 09:35:28 PM »

I'm looking into modding, mainly pla plates but alto a bit of metal. I was just wondering what kind of tools are needed and if anyone can give me a quick tutorial.

Main questions are
1. how to pla plate curved surfaces while minimising stress on the pla plate
2. What kinds of tools are needed for working on pla plates and metal

Also a quick guides for some basic mods would be nice
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Re: Pla Plate and General Modding help
« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2010, 11:52:08 PM »

With metal I have mini tin snips, metal scribe, auto panel beating dolly, mini ball point hammer, small rubber mallard and ruler. Pla plates you need a standly knife and scissors. The only way to glue pla plates to curved surfaces is to stock to card thickness of 0.5mm and thinner. Soak it in cement then plaster it on, once dried you will have some sanding to do. 

I'll also recomend you and everybody else to check out this thread on Bakuc.com, it should answer all your questions:
http://forum.bakuc.com/index.php/topic,642.0.html
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Re: Pla Plate and General Modding help
« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2010, 06:47:37 AM »

Pla-plating is easy to do but it can be hard to cut the pieces evenly. It depends on the thickness of the card when it comes to sticking to curved surfaces. The thicker the card, the harder it will be to attach evenly. The stuff that is the thickness of paper is easy to attach to curved surfaces.

Use solvent based glues as these melt the plastics together and form a stronger bond. Spread the glue over the back of the piece and attach it to where you want. Try to only add enough to stick it on and not any more as the excess can be a pain to clean up afterwards.

Cutting the pla-plate is easy too. Score it with a sharp knife a few times and then snap it off.

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Re: Pla Plate and General Modding help
« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2010, 09:48:54 AM »

never tried it myself but can you heat gun it to make it malleable?
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Re: Pla Plate and General Modding help
« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2010, 10:03:01 AM »

never tried it myself but can you heat gun it to make it malleable?

 No.

 Just no.

 Plastic card can be gently bent before applying it to help it go around corners. Probably the best way to glue it into position is to place the part first, and add a tiny amount of thin cement to the edge and let it flow under and around the part. Once it's dried a quick going over with some fine sandpaper will help give it a cohesive feel.

 p.s. : I still think calling it pla plate is rather quaint.
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Re: Pla Plate and General Modding help
« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2010, 11:37:52 AM »

p.s. : I still think calling it pla plate is rather quaint.

I second that, to memory pla plate is a brand name for styrene sheets? I think Tamiya makes it but is bloody expensive compaired to evergreen.
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Re: Pla Plate and General Modding help
« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2010, 04:03:52 PM »

I always though pla-plate was a Japanese term for Plastic Plating, you know like Gunpla is short for Gundam Plastic etc.

Evergreen is best but they don't have the same range of shapes that Plastruct has in their range.

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Re: Pla Plate and General Modding help
« Reply #7 on: December 28, 2010, 07:53:12 PM »

1. how to pla plate curved surfaces while minimising stress on the pla plate:
depends on the thickness but it's thin enough you can alkways use heat press method

2. What kinds of tools are needed for working on pla plates and metal:
what you use for your gunpla can be used ith pla plates
for metal you will want separate set as working with metal will dull the tool real quick
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Re: Pla Plate and General Modding help
« Reply #8 on: December 29, 2010, 11:20:07 AM »

One thing to remember: There's two kinds of plastic plate (Pla Plate): Evergreen mostly has Styrene (PS) plastic, while Plastruct has Polystyrene and ABS plastic (Most of their ABS selection are pipes/rods). Be aware of this when using them. That's why it's easier (and technically correct) to call plastic plates "Styrene"--it's the specific kind of plastic you're using--and the same kind of plastic used on Gundam kits' armor.

Bending styrene to shape depends on what you need it to do (resculpt/display or reinforcement?), and how extreme the curve is. Most of the time you can just physically bend the styrene with your hands. Other times you'd need to use thin styrene cement. For extreme cases, you might have to make cuts in the styrene and glue the gaps together--but that requires long-term planning and experience.

Personally, I find it easier to just use Polyester Putty (or some other soft 'fill' putty), let it dry, and then sand it to the proper curvature.
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Re: Pla Plate and General Modding help
« Reply #9 on: December 31, 2010, 05:46:43 AM »

you can always use heat press method

is this the hair dryer i was thinking of?
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Re: Pla Plate and General Modding help
« Reply #10 on: December 31, 2010, 10:33:16 AM »

nope.

get a cheese tray you get from Tasty Cheese or something from supermarket
also get the small flat candle from candle shop

get a part where you want the plus mould using the cheese tray and once it gets heated enough on the candle press it on the part and hold still for couple seconds

trim the excess and etc.
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Re: Pla Plate and General Modding help
« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2011, 06:08:58 AM »

like this?
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Re: Pla Plate and General Modding help
« Reply #12 on: January 10, 2011, 08:25:00 AM »

no.

you start with this:


and after done with heat press method you got this:


when put together this looks like this - much better no?
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Re: Pla Plate and General Modding help
« Reply #13 on: January 10, 2011, 11:28:06 PM »

about pla paltes, what do they generally look like (I never saw one around davao)
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Re: Pla Plate and General Modding help
« Reply #14 on: January 11, 2011, 12:32:14 PM »

Pla plates look like this:


I actually had to get someone to buy me Pla Plates from Manila since I couldn't find them here.
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