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The Flight Deck => Mobile Suit Hangar => Topic started by: Derringer on December 21, 2012, 05:20:38 PM

Title: The Nuseum (Nu Gundam 1988 vs 2000 vs 2012)
Post by: Derringer on December 21, 2012, 05:20:38 PM
Besides the Nu Gundam group build, I thought it would be interesting to do a comparison build of the nu gundam from the first 1/100 kit design against the newer Ver Ka, a span of 24 years.  

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b109/whalegamer2000/Current%20Project/Nu%20Museum/Museum.jpg)

Ver Ka Weapons
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b109/whalegamer2000/Current%20Project/Nu%20Museum/20121215_195314.jpg)

1988 weapons done!
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b109/whalegamer2000/Current%20Project/Nu%20Museum/DSC01177.jpg)


1988 Nu Gundam: It's still impressive considering it's 24 years old.  Here's some pics of the box and the runners
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Snap fitted:
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I'll have to compare with the MG 1.0, but I think the old 1988's head might be little bit more proportioned because its shoulders are larger.  It's head is still a bit oversized I think.
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And delicious leg diecast.  This is sort of like the first inner model kit skeleton.
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Title: Re: Nu Museum 1988 vs 2012
Post by: fury-s12 on December 21, 2012, 05:36:33 PM
Very cool post mate, moar?
Title: Re: Nu Museum 1988 vs 2012
Post by: Derringer on January 10, 2013, 05:34:34 PM
Hmmah you know looking at the MG Nu 1.0, it doesn't look like the head is actually oversized.  In fact, it seems the shoulders are undersized on the 1.0, since they are approximately the same size as the Ver. Ka, despite the Ver. Ka's chest, legs, arms, feet, etc. being a tad bit smaller.

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b109/whalegamer2000/Current%20Project/Nu%20Museum/th_DSC01230.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b109/whalegamer2000/Current%20Project/Nu%20Museum/DSC01230.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b109/whalegamer2000/Current%20Project/Nu%20Museum/th_DSC01227.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b109/whalegamer2000/Current%20Project/Nu%20Museum/DSC01227.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b109/whalegamer2000/Current%20Project/Nu%20Museum/th_DSC01228.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b109/whalegamer2000/Current%20Project/Nu%20Museum/DSC01228.jpg)

Hmmmah my plan to use the Evolve style vents will require me to scratchbuild the vents.  Flipping the it around gives it the knock off Chinese Gundoom look where they didn't fix the orientation.  Vent needs to be straight, not slanted.
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b109/whalegamer2000/Current%20Project/Nu%20Museum/th_DSC01233.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b109/whalegamer2000/Current%20Project/Nu%20Museum/DSC01233.jpg)
Title: Re: Nu Museum 1988 vs 2000 vs 2012
Post by: tristan on January 10, 2013, 06:18:47 PM
I love the metal parts. Would buy the it just for them!
Title: Re: Nu Museum 1988 vs 2000 vs 2012
Post by: Derringer on January 11, 2013, 09:23:22 AM
More Comparison Shots
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b109/whalegamer2000/Current%20Project/Nu%20Museum/th_DSC01236.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b109/whalegamer2000/Current%20Project/Nu%20Museum/DSC01236.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b109/whalegamer2000/Current%20Project/Nu%20Museum/th_DSC01234.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b109/whalegamer2000/Current%20Project/Nu%20Museum/DSC01234.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b109/whalegamer2000/Current%20Project/Nu%20Museum/th_DSC01240.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b109/whalegamer2000/Current%20Project/Nu%20Museum/DSC01240.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b109/whalegamer2000/Current%20Project/Nu%20Museum/th_DSC01241.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b109/whalegamer2000/Current%20Project/Nu%20Museum/DSC01241.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b109/whalegamer2000/Current%20Project/Nu%20Museum/th_DSC01242.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b109/whalegamer2000/Current%20Project/Nu%20Museum/DSC01242.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b109/whalegamer2000/Current%20Project/Nu%20Museum/th_DSC01243.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b109/whalegamer2000/Current%20Project/Nu%20Museum/DSC01243.jpg)
Title: Re: Nu Museum 1988 vs 2000 vs 2012
Post by: Sonar on January 11, 2013, 11:06:18 AM
This is epic work Derringer. Just outstanding.

Now how about the possibility of combining the die cast parts from both previous kits into the Ka..... ? ;D
Title: Re: Nu Museum 1988 vs 2000 vs 2012
Post by: Derringer on January 11, 2013, 11:40:20 AM
It's unnecessary.  The diecast in the past was used as a crutch for the stability of the design.  I don't have a scale on hand with me, but I believe the weight of the Nu Ver Ka's legs are about equal to the other versions simply because there's just so much more added plastic for its construction

Here's a bazooka comparison, the bottom one is the Nu Ver Ka's barrel extended.  I think this is a first for the design.
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b109/whalegamer2000/Current%20Project/Nu%20Museum/th_DSC01213.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b109/whalegamer2000/Current%20Project/Nu%20Museum/DSC01213.jpg)
Title: Re: The Nuseum (Nu Gundam 1988 vs 2000 vs 2012)
Post by: Sonar on January 11, 2013, 06:21:14 PM
I always liked the die cast parts. Made it feel... quality?
Title: Re: The Nuseum (Nu Gundam 1988 vs 2000 vs 2012)
Post by: Derringer on January 16, 2013, 04:03:58 PM
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b109/whalegamer2000/Current%20Project/Nu%20Museum/th_DSC01214.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b109/whalegamer2000/Current%20Project/Nu%20Museum/DSC01214.jpg)

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b109/whalegamer2000/Current%20Project/Nu%20Museum/th_DSC01194.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b109/whalegamer2000/Current%20Project/Nu%20Museum/DSC01194.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b109/whalegamer2000/Current%20Project/Nu%20Museum/th_DSC01196.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b109/whalegamer2000/Current%20Project/Nu%20Museum/DSC01196.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b109/whalegamer2000/Current%20Project/Nu%20Museum/th_DSC01197.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b109/whalegamer2000/Current%20Project/Nu%20Museum/DSC01197.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b109/whalegamer2000/Current%20Project/Nu%20Museum/th_DSC01198.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b109/whalegamer2000/Current%20Project/Nu%20Museum/DSC01198.jpg)
Title: Re: The Nuseum (Nu Gundam 1988 vs 2000 vs 2012)
Post by: matanglawinX on January 16, 2013, 04:29:19 PM
great comparative.  Makes me appreciate the Nu even more...
Title: Re: The Nuseum (Nu Gundam 1988 vs 2000 vs 2012)
Post by: Derringer on January 24, 2013, 04:07:16 PM
Arm comparison
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b109/whalegamer2000/Current%20Project/Nu%20Museum/th_DSC01232.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b109/whalegamer2000/Current%20Project/Nu%20Museum/DSC01232.jpg)
Title: Re: The Nuseum (Nu Gundam 1988 vs 2000 vs 2012)
Post by: Sonar on January 24, 2013, 04:56:01 PM
Demonstrating just how much detail there is in Katoki designed kits..
Title: Re: The Nuseum (Nu Gundam 1988 vs 2000 vs 2012)
Post by: Derringer on February 04, 2013, 03:17:55 AM
So the 1988 kit has a pair of hydraulics that are there for display, but don't actually do anything.  In fact the whole assembly just moves upward with the thigh, and it looks somewhat awkward.

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b109/whalegamer2000/Current%20Project/Nu%20Museum/th_DSC01199.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b109/whalegamer2000/Current%20Project/Nu%20Museum/DSC01199.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b109/whalegamer2000/Current%20Project/Nu%20Museum/th_DSC01206.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b109/whalegamer2000/Current%20Project/Nu%20Museum/DSC01206.jpg)

So, what I've done for the hydraulic system is make it actuate, just for the sake of having the mechanism "look" like it's working when the outer armor on.  It's still only there without any functional purpose, but it moves.  I used the injection pin marking on the the underside of the front leg as a reference to drill a hole.  Through this hole I inserted a plastic rod with my two fake hydraulics I made from the sides of a runner.

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b109/whalegamer2000/Current%20Project/Nu%20Museum/th_DSC01216.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b109/whalegamer2000/Current%20Project/Nu%20Museum/DSC01216.jpg)


These "pistons" were then secured together using some staple wire.

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b109/whalegamer2000/Current%20Project/Nu%20Museum/th_DSC01220.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b109/whalegamer2000/Current%20Project/Nu%20Museum/DSC01220.jpg)

This is what the movement looks like with the artificial pistons, which move with the thigh. 


(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b109/whalegamer2000/Current%20Project/Nu%20Museum/th_DSC01217.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b109/whalegamer2000/Current%20Project/Nu%20Museum/DSC01217.jpg)


The piping on the rear of the legs on the Nu Gundam seems to have been interpreted in various ways over the years.  Originally it looked like some sort of metal coil, which was portrayed through molded lines on the older 1988 kit.  The MG Nu Gundam uses mesh pipe, while the Nu Ver. Ka is just a smooth pipe, relying on the end user to detail it as he/she sees fit.

For the older kit I sanded off the molded detail and put in springs from ball point pens.

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b109/whalegamer2000/Current%20Project/Nu%20Museum/th_DSC01224.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b109/whalegamer2000/Current%20Project/Nu%20Museum/DSC01224.jpg)
Title: Re: The Nuseum (Nu Gundam 1988 vs 2000 vs 2012)
Post by: GhettoGunpla on February 12, 2013, 01:11:56 AM
Very cool, I can't wait to see more
Title: Re: The Nuseum (Nu Gundam 1988 vs 2000 vs 2012)
Post by: Derringer on March 12, 2013, 01:44:00 PM
Did some more things

Made the bazooka on the 1988 kit easier to paint by doing some C - Joint mods

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b109/whalegamer2000/Current%20Project/Nu%20Museum/bazooka.jpg)

Encapsulated the bicep joint which was a bare polycap with a mix of left over runners and SGT.

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b109/whalegamer2000/Current%20Project/Nu%20Museum/th_DSC01189.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b109/whalegamer2000/Current%20Project/Nu%20Museum/DSC01189.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b109/whalegamer2000/Current%20Project/Nu%20Museum/th_DSC01188.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b109/whalegamer2000/Current%20Project/Nu%20Museum/DSC01188.jpg)(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b109/whalegamer2000/Current%20Project/Nu%20Museum/th_DSC01223.jpg) (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b109/whalegamer2000/Current%20Project/Nu%20Museum/DSC01223.jpg)